Aug 21, 2025

Exploring the Clinical Process and Sacred Connections in Psychedelic Work

Sandy Newes
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Will Van Derveer, MD

Will Van Derveer, MD, is the Co-founder of Integrative Psychiatry Institute, a practice that trains clinicians in holistic mental health care. He is also the Medical Director of the Integrative Psychiatry Healing Center, which provides holistic mental health care. With over 20 years of experience in psychiatry, Dr. Van Derveer specializes in psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy, somatic techniques, EMDR, and internal family systems. He has also co-authored research on MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and was a co-investigator in the Phase II clinical trials sponsored by MAPS. 

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Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

  • [2:28] Dr. Will Van Derveer talks about leaving conventional psychiatry for integrative medicine and psychedelics
  • [10:38] The role of spiritual guidance and collective wisdom in psychedelic therapy
  • [14:21] How reductionism limits mental health care and how to expand consciousness with psychedelics
  • [17:20] Dr. Van Derveer explains how Buddhism influences his approach to psychedelic therapy
  • [21:38] Overcoming negative thought patterns through altered states
  • [25:59] Common traits among psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy trainees
  • [31:52] Essential skills for psychedelic therapy technicians
  • [41:13] The difference in use cases between ketamine, psilocybin, MDMA, and ayahuasca

In this episode…

Many mental health practitioners feel limited by conventional psychiatry’s narrow approaches, which often leave patients struggling despite treatment. While medication and talk therapy can help, some individuals remain stuck in cycles of trauma, depression, or anxiety that resist these methods. How can integrative approaches and altered states of consciousness offer a more effective path to healing?

According to holistic psychiatrist Dr. Will Van Derveer, expanded states of consciousness like those induced by MDMA, ketamine, or psilocybin can help patients break free from rigid thought patterns and reconnect with a deeper sense of self. He maintains that cultural humility, ethics, and integration work are crucial for achieving long-term results. Dr. Van Derveer also guides practitioners to slow down, stay curious, and avoid imposing their personal beliefs on clients.

Tune in to this episode of Living Medicine as Dr. Sandy Newes welcomes Dr. Will Van Derveer, MD, Co-founder of Integrative Psychiatry Institute, to discuss integrating psychedelic therapy into mainstream mental health care. Dr. Van Derveer talks about training practitioners in psychedelic work, matching various psychedelic medicines to patient needs, and maintaining curiosity in facilitation.

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Quotable Moments:

  • “When I got invited to become a MAPS researcher, I was pretty skeptical, to be honest.”
  • “It felt like an ethical crisis to not provide psychedelic therapy after seeing how effective it could be.”
  • “Our mental health care system leaves way too many people up a creek without a paddle.”
  • “Integration is pretty much the whole game. The dosing session is important, but integration is critical.”
  • “You can easily become a bull in the china shop in a psychedelic session and not know it.”

Action Steps:

  1. Prioritize integration over dosing sessions: While the medicine experience is powerful, lasting change happens through careful integration afterward. This process helps clients apply insights to daily life, preventing regression and supporting sustainable transformation.
  2. Maintain cultural humility in practice: Honoring the traditions and origins of psychedelic medicines fosters respect and ethical responsibility. Practitioners can build trust and avoid harm by acknowledging the cultural roots of these modalities.
  3. Match the right medicine to the client’s needs: Different substances address different mental health challenges and carry distinct benefits and risks. Tailoring the approach increases safety, improves outcomes, and respects individual circumstances.
  4. Slow down and stay curious as a facilitator: Avoid rushing to conclusions or imposing your own interpretations during sessions. This openness allows the client’s healing intelligence to guide the process.
  5. Educate clients on realistic expectations: Clarifying that psychedelic medicines are catalysts, not standalone cures, promotes commitment to ongoing therapeutic work. This helps prevent disappointment and fosters engagement in lifestyle and psychological changes.

Sponsor for this episode…

This episode is brought to you by the Living Medicine Institute.

LMI is a training, resource, and membership program educating providers about the legal and safe use of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy.

To learn more or participate, visit https://livingmedicineinstitute.com.

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